tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post4689775818435965337..comments2024-03-07T03:41:31.958-08:00Comments on Girl Meets World Reviewed: Episode Reviews: "Girl Meets Sneak Attack" (#1.03) and "Girl Meets Father" (#1.04)Christianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15777511078966279437noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-82711894966792696222016-04-21T21:16:16.605-07:002016-04-21T21:16:16.605-07:00can i just say, and please comment if u agree, the...can i just say, and please comment if u agree, the whole thing of WHO is gonna date Lucas and who loves who like a brother, then back to no she's really in love with him too blah blah blah is getting SO OLD.. PICK ONE OR MOVE ON.. It was interesting for a little while but it's been drug on too long.. Jtullernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-7858312767017621952015-09-05T08:49:32.210-07:002015-09-05T08:49:32.210-07:00Thank you (blushes). I think Riley and Auggie are ...Thank you (blushes). I think Riley and Auggie are super cute together, it's Eva and Auggie that I don't like. I think Eva is a little too close to a stereotype for comfort, aside from the fact that I find her annoying.<br /><br />Maybe they wanted Josh to fill the older brother role, which wouldn't work if she already had an older brother. It's the best reason I can come up with. Kit Cosmohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08840686815409700687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-67723021903615351462015-09-05T04:23:35.807-07:002015-09-05T04:23:35.807-07:00Kit,
Those are great ideas. Those are really, rea...Kit, <br />Those are great ideas. Those are really, really great ideas. <br /><br />As I recall, Elliot was supposed to be a year older--though when the pilot was filmed, the actor Teo Halm (Earth to Echo) was a lot taller than Rowan, so I don't blame you for thinking two years--and his most defining characteristic was "Use Riley as favorite wrestling dummy." There was potential there. It's something I've noticed; with the exception of the sets of twins, Disney siblings usually only barely tolerate each other, unless the younger brothers are manipulating the dim-witted older brothers.<br /><br />Auggie wasn't part of the show yet either. YMMV about Ava, but I like the Riley-Auggie scenes. There was also talk about Cousin Troy Mathews, until fans cried foul about lack of Eric.Cryptid456https://www.blogger.com/profile/00412297623766249504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-62323994820225580772015-09-04T21:15:11.530-07:002015-09-04T21:15:11.530-07:00Cryptid456-
You just made the strongest case for ...Cryptid456-<br /><br />You just made the strongest case for Elliot's existence that I have ever read. I love all of these ideas. I'll add some of my own. It's not original, but Riley feels neglected because Elliot and Corey are off doing guy things, and Topanga is helping Auggie with little kid things, like a school play. Also, battle of the sexes (Riley and Maya vs. Elliot and Auggie) in an epic kid prank war could have been fun. I wonder how many years older Elliot was supposed to be. If it's only a year, he'd still be in school with them, but if he was two years older, he'd be in a different school.<br /><br />I disagree about Morgan. They thought a little sister would be cute, then she aged out of cute, and they had no idea what to do with her. They had other characters they wanted to focus on, and storylines to explore. Morgan didn't fit into that. Kit Cosmohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08840686815409700687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-44372093713896392952015-09-04T18:22:49.426-07:002015-09-04T18:22:49.426-07:00*Grabs sword and rushes to defend 1960poster*
Sea...*Grabs sword and rushes to defend 1960poster*<br /><br />Sean, Cory wouldn't be eating ice cream with a giant spoon. He'd either be eating a big bowl of Coco Puffs with chocolate milk or a big slab of chocolate cake and whipped cream.<br /><br />I wanted to bring this up in my large comment that got lost when my computer reloaded. Long story short, I think the episode said that the park on Coney Island was about to close for the season. So it's a bit more than just missing out on an outing--it's the family event of the year. It really is a tradition. That being said, these classroom scenes were pretty painful. Cory's out-of-line here, no question. And I agree, Cory is not Alan. Alan is Superman, remember?<br /><br />However, I think the episode's saving grace is in the final scene, when Cory initiates the Father-Daughter dance. I am a complete and utter sap--I am an admitted Hufflepuff; I love these types of moments. Maya is stunned to see Cory reach out for her in this way. So I love the ending. I really love the ending. <br /><br />Grade: B<br /><br />MVP: I actually think i want to give it to Rowan, to be honest. She seemed to be more earnest here, a glimpse of the people-pleaser Riley becomes to a degree in Season 2.Cryptid456https://www.blogger.com/profile/00412297623766249504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-12791077669052110702015-09-04T18:11:43.154-07:002015-09-04T18:11:43.154-07:00I agree with Corey. I think having the older broth...I agree with Corey. I think having the older brother Elliot would have strengthened the show. At least initially. <br /><br />Have older brother? Hello Big Brother Instincts and good-bye to Love Interest being Riley's entire bloody arc for the first season. Have older brother? Hello person who Auggie idolizes and good bye to Ava taking up all of Mommy Topanga's storylines. Big Brother Elliot can have the role instead. Have older brother?<br /><br />I agree with your point about so-little-Morgan being a mark against the show, Christian. To compare to 7th Heaven, which had Ruthie and then the twins, sure the storylines were awful but at least nobody familiar with the show ever forgot they were there. <br /><br />A casual fan of Boy Meets World could legitimately have no idea that Morgan even existed.Cryptid456https://www.blogger.com/profile/00412297623766249504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-62220050578107940802015-09-04T18:06:41.893-07:002015-09-04T18:06:41.893-07:00Funny in an early review (I think it was Girl Meet...Funny in an early review (I think it was Girl Meets Truth) Christian said that of the first four episodes Girl Meets Father was his favorite. Guess that's not the case anymore!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-41601796835544335622015-09-04T17:55:11.091-07:002015-09-04T17:55:11.091-07:00Fun fact: Olivia Stuck is a regular (the title cha...Fun fact: Olivia Stuck is a regular (the title character's sister, in fact) in Kirby Buckets on XD, a show that apparently is so under-appreciated it got its page on TVTropes deleted.Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11674596339371994623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-32106868248531035412015-09-04T12:46:45.621-07:002015-09-04T12:46:45.621-07:00I agree that maya was a brat in this episode and c...I agree that maya was a brat in this episode and cory was completely cringe-worthy so I'm not gonna elaborate any more on all the reasons season 1 and this episode suck. But in defense of just one positive for Girl Meets Father I actually liked the little moment at the end with the dance as Riley stepped aside so Cory could dance with Maya. It was sweet and i like the idea of Cory kind of taking Maya under his wing in season 1 before they introduced the Maya Shawn dynamic. It was kind of a follow up to how he gave her the new phone in Girl Meets Boy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-42809802644244558492015-09-04T11:34:17.877-07:002015-09-04T11:34:17.877-07:00I appreciate your appeal to "Cory hates chang...I appreciate your appeal to "Cory hates change," 1960, since that didn't actually come to mind while I was watching it and that's a good point. But Cory isn't a shitty person. He would whine and complain to Topanga about not riding the Cyclone, that's fine. I could enjoy him sobbing and eating ice cream with a giant spoon or something, because you're right, he hates change. But he's explicitly MEAN to his daughter. He's not sad and anxious about it, he's a jerk to his child.<br />Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04773515281303659184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-52652475374153449272015-09-04T09:47:30.957-07:002015-09-04T09:47:30.957-07:00Another reason for so many Auggie subplots is that...Another reason for so many Auggie subplots is that he tends to be "something for Topanga to do" as she's often pretty isolated from the main story by virtue of not being at JQA. This has been lessened in Season 2 since the introduction of Topanga's, which allows Topanga to be around, in conjunction with how BMW vet-focused this season's been, which allows Topanga to do that kind of stuff. And thus I think Auggie's screentime has gone way down this season.<br /><br />But, yeah, Morgan did have some subplots. And honestly the degree to which she was utilized in BMW is a mark against the show. They shouldn't have ignored Eric and Cory's sister as a character so much. Christianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15777511078966279437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-25579068438319754442015-09-04T09:39:08.091-07:002015-09-04T09:39:08.091-07:00Kit, Morgan did have a few subplots, but not many....Kit, Morgan did have a few subplots, but not many. The reason Auggie gets so many is that we have no Eric equivalent in this show. Eric got the majority of B plotlines in BMW. We do get a lot of just Riley and Maya plots though, so it wouldn't kill the writers to give us some Farkle/Lucas plots independent of the girls to flesh out those characters and cut down on the kiddies. Maybe next year when Josh is in NYC in college, he'll get some stories to cut down on Auggie as well.<br /><br />I do find Auggie and Ava pretty cute though. In small doses.1960posterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01319497662389419606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-23428113874520589162015-09-04T09:33:54.682-07:002015-09-04T09:33:54.682-07:00No, Cory isn't Alan, and he shouldn't be. ...No, Cory isn't Alan, and he shouldn't be. But that doesn't mean he has to be THE WORST either. I'm fine with Cory being like Cory, and being high-strung and afraid of change but I'm not okay with him being shitty to his daughter. This was just too much. I found it exceedingly off-putting, he behaved contemptuously in this whole episode until the end when he magically wised up. <br /><br />And, no, I don't think it's a fair question, because there's an overwhelming implication that the problem is just that we don't 'get it'. And we do get it. We also got it in Wheels and Father/Son Game, both of which were episodes where I ached for Alan. It was never the plot of this episode I had issue with, it's the execution. The execution was terrible. This was a terribly written episode. Christianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15777511078966279437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-13783299269567259492015-09-04T09:19:52.059-07:002015-09-04T09:19:52.059-07:00Yes, but this was Cory and not Alan. If Cory had r...Yes, but this was Cory and not Alan. If Cory had reacted exactly like Alan that would have been shit writing because Cory isn't like Alan at all except maybe his morals. Cory throws a fit about any change and has been for years. Why should this episode be any different? I'm surprised you didn't see that.<br /><br />And truly I do think it is a fair question. Remember when Cory told Shawn that his life began when Riley was born? That really resonates with me. I was also on the child end of the parent/child relationship, but until you are the parent, nothing you see or read about can truly prepare you for how disappointing that feeling is when you are the parent and this happens. Cory here is feeling exactly what all parents go through, though he reacts as Cory would, not a typical parent.<br /><br />While in a perfect world I don't disagree that Cory should have behaved better, this is a TV show and some characters are flawed. Even Cory states in Sneak Attack "how can he be an adult, I'm not an adult yet", and we see that exactly here in Meets Father.1960posterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01319497662389419606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-47639893678865785102015-09-04T09:00:38.826-07:002015-09-04T09:00:38.826-07:00I don't find the question "I take it you ...I don't find the question "I take it you two don't have kids?" particularly fair. Yes, obviously, no, neither of us has kids. That does not mean we fail to understand the nuances of father/son relationships and the bittersweet nature of children growing up and needing/valuing you less. I get it. And I'm fine with that, and I'm fine with stories about that. Boy Meets World did an EXCELLENT job with those kinds of stories - I cited The Father/Son Game, and Wheels is another one. Alan's reaction was very realistic, and showed me shades of things I then recognized I'd seen in my own father as I grew up, and it was poignant. In the case of Wheels, in particular, Alan's feelings were hurt and he even was kind of frosty with Cory as a result. I'm fine with all of that.<br /><br />But it's how they executed it that was an absolute nightmare. Cory wasn't stoically and quietly pained like Alan was, like my own father was, like most fathers I think are in the situation. No, instead he THREW A FIT. He demanded his daughter not go to the dance, sniped at her when she tried to explain herself and express herself honestly, then was openly hostile to her in class in front of all her friends. He pouted and whined and sulked and handled the whole situation like a brat. Christianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15777511078966279437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-42884748989073122232015-09-04T08:39:40.227-07:002015-09-04T08:39:40.227-07:00Auggie is okay in small doses, and without Ava. Mo...Auggie is okay in small doses, and without Ava. Morgan never had subplots, I don't see why Auggie has to have subplots. I would love to see more interaction between Auggie and Riley. I would like to see a Topanga plotline that isn't about Auggie and Ava. Kit Cosmohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08840686815409700687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-86268451394461005192015-09-04T08:10:04.726-07:002015-09-04T08:10:04.726-07:00While I wasn't a big fan of Sneak Attack, Miss...While I wasn't a big fan of Sneak Attack, Missy was a good character and it would be interesting to bring her back as a recurring character to be a nemesis to Riley. Sadly the actress is a regular on Kirby Buckets and probably doesn't have time for that. Farkle was also pretty good here. This is the first time we see that he'll do anything to keep Maya and Riley happy, even if it means sacrificing his own happiness.<br /><br />I agree with the grade and the MVP. <br /><br />As for Meets Father. Wow, it seems like you two didn't go into this looking for any positives at all. You did however find every thing you could to rip it up. I'm not saying it was as good as it could have been, but wow, I have to ask myself after reading that review why you kept watching the show at all? I will come out and say although I don't think it was the best season 1 episode, it is my favorite, flaws and all. <br /><br />I'm going to go out on a limb and assume neither of you have children yet. I can tell you from personal experience that it really sucks when you go from the kids being excited to see you when you get home from work to they aren't even here and you are lucky to get a hello from them. Add on to that the fact that Cory is very young to be in this situation and he is a neurotic mess when it comes to change anyway, and you have a reasonable explanation for why he acts that way. The fact that he grows and accepts that is part of his journey, which isn't over just because its Riley's show. <br /><br />I did have a little issue with Maya telling the Matthews clan that her dad doesn't live with her and her mom. Maya is over their place all the time, and I can't believe that has never come up before. Also we know from Master Plan that Cory and Topanga know where Katy works and that Cory really likes Katy. I gave all that a pass because while Maya was trying to explain her situation to the Matthews (who already knew) the writers needed to get that across to the audience, who didn't know. That was information we needed to appreciate Maya the character, and I guess they didn't have a better way to tell us. That is a much worse situation that Shawn had early on, as he had both parents until the very end of season 2.<br /><br />I had to give Meets Father a B.<br /><br />Oh - that 9th grade girl - the writers tweeted that she was a continuity error they made, the ones they don't really care about. No 9th graders in JQA - that is why they are graduating this year and not next. 1960posterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01319497662389419606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-34608243033473641672015-09-04T06:52:02.969-07:002015-09-04T06:52:02.969-07:00I believe they joked about Auggie's storylines...I believe they joked about Auggie's storylines being entirely Topanga's "thing" in the second season 2 episode. It's true, though. having Riley be the protective older sister would add to her character. i'm starting to miss that elder brother that we never got to meet.Coreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04086180825752743294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-28901986775955722552015-09-04T04:30:14.842-07:002015-09-04T04:30:14.842-07:00Personally, I'm surprised that Charles Darwin ...Personally, I'm surprised that Charles Darwin would warrant a quiz of his own in a seventh grade history course. Science, sure. But history? Maybe in a unit on explorers--Columbus, Cortes, Stellar, Sir Alexander Mackenzie, John Palliser, Charles Darwin.<br /><br />I have two thoughts on Ava. One: The storyline would not have been green-lit at all if the roles were reversed, if Riley had a little sister who had a little "boyfriend" who didn't treat her nicely. Two: Ava monopolizes Topanga's airtime--why not have Riley fill the role from time to time? It'd flesh out Riley's character as a protective older sister.Cryptid456https://www.blogger.com/profile/00412297623766249504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-58064728118613114592015-09-03T22:27:09.931-07:002015-09-03T22:27:09.931-07:00I stumbled into GMW in Season 2, into Pluto to be ...I stumbled into GMW in Season 2, into Pluto to be exact, and circled back to Season 1 later. Already knowing the show had Pluto in it made my experience of the early episodes very different.<br /><br />In any event, much of the stuff you guys inveigh against so entertainingly I usually accept as the price of admission for watching a Disney kids’ show.<br /><br />The finger-in-nose stuff was appalling though.<br /><br />I was more or less okay with Ava the first time she appeared. But the show seemed to think she was a problem, and then decided to solve that problem by having her sing her name, loudly.<br /><br />From what I have seen of other teenage boys on Disney shows (a very small sample size admittedly), and a character who is fourth on the depth chart to boot, I think Lucas still exceeds expectations.<br /><br />What I took the strongest exception to was the “guiding hand” genuflection almost immediately upon the mention of evolution. But, that would be the mother of all rabbit holes to enter.<br /><br />They gave us an advanced airing of “I Am Farkle,” up here, part of the roll out this week of our Disney Channel. Just watched it. I will need to watch it again. <br />milestones1958https://www.blogger.com/profile/17399359189984453459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-54117966000046313852015-09-03T20:15:35.716-07:002015-09-03T20:15:35.716-07:00In a nutshell, this show stumbled out of the gates...In a nutshell, this show stumbled out of the gates, and it showed through the 1st half of the season. Riley and Maya were the best things about the show this early on, even when you take away Maya's piss poor attitude from "Meets Father". Cory was just the biggest joke of a father in that episode too. He took it so personally, that it was disgusting. You are a 30+ year old, father of 2, and that's how you act?! Like a petulant child?! Yeah, you guys hit all the nails on the head. Well done.pwfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05846753926134120983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-382001792347152845.post-46611911891325011862015-09-03T20:11:45.556-07:002015-09-03T20:11:45.556-07:00Augh. My computer reloaded and I lost all my stuff...Augh. My computer reloaded and I lost all my stuff.<br /><br />Oh, well. <br /><br />I'll write a new comment proper tomorrow, but first:<br /><br />I completely agree about Missy. Sure she wasn't great, but a Mean Girl would have fleshed out the show dramatically. Give Riley an antagonist and for reasons other than a love triangle. Missy's apparently very popular, or at least affluent--keeping her around would have reinforced the idea that Riley isn't popular that the writers tried to keep up for the first half of the season.Cryptid456https://www.blogger.com/profile/00412297623766249504noreply@blogger.com