I enjoy Maya's casual, resigned pessimism. It resonates with me. Unfortunately, instead of wondering if Maya's fears may come true, I'm instead wondering how they'll convince Maya that she should never have worried in the first place. The Disney ending is a foregone conclusion.
Eh, this didn't bother me. And I'll tell you why: 1) Maya's being silly, so it should be taken as a foregone conclusion that she'll be wrong. Cynicism is one thing, a believe that Life or the Universe is a sentient entity that's out to get her is not. 2) It's Shawn. This franchise would never allow Shawn Hunter to let her down. To do to her what so often was done to him. No matter how grim they played it, no one would buy it.
We're recycling the "Shawn has to let go of Cory so he can get married" thing but with the roles reversed. It's a little flippant for my taste. These two cried and yelled at each other over this. I don't like when their love for each other is used so offhandedly.
Eh, this didn't bother me. AGAIN. Things are different now. Cory's already been married for years, so they're used to how that works. They already don't see each other all that often. And they're 35, not 20. I actually think this was exactly the right tone that they played this in this episode. They play them as loving each other and being very close, without throwing Topanga (or Katy) under the bus to do it, which has always made me uncomfortable.
Their like "Wow Cory you're such a goober for loving Shawn this much." No he's not though. That's like, the entire show. Mark Blutman wrote this episode, and he's part of The Great Generation, so hopefully he can rally and not make fun of Cory's love again.
How is he making fun of their love? Cory's acting exactly how he's always acted more or less. What's silly isn't their love, it's that he's behaving like a jilted lover, when he's... not a jilted lover. And it's always been silly that they do that. This literally will not change their relationship at all. In fact, Cory will likely see more of Shawn as a result of this marriage. Shawn lives upstate. Katy and Maya live in Manhattan. Maya's obviously not leaving Manhattan. So Shawn's moving to Manhattan. Right?
I always walked away from BMW with this feeling that it's okay to be like Cory, to love your friend that way and express it the way Cory does. Yes, it's silly, it's worth a laugh, but it's also genuine. This episode of Girl Meets World paints those feelings like some crazy nonsense way to behave. That's exactly why I used that screenshot, look at how they're looking at Cory. We got laughs out of Cory's dramatic emotions in Boy Meets World, but we never treated him like an idiot for it, and that's what I felt in this episode.
It's actually weird they don't state what the deal is outright. They live in completely different parts of the state. What's going to happen there? I shouldn't have to assume Shawn's moving to Manhattan. And, also,does it make sense that this is what would happen? Yes, Shawn's job can be done remotely.... but he owns a beautiful house. Maya and Katy have a shitty apartment in a bad neighborhood. I don't know. I mean, Shawn's not going to want to separate Maya from the Matthews, since he knows what having the Matthews family around can mean for a kid like Maya. And he'd probably enjoy the opportunity to be close to Cory and Topanga. And if Katy's still trying to be an actress, her moving upstate wouldn't do her any favors. I guess Shawn should sell his house and maybe buy a condo in a nicer neighborhood of Manhattan. Okay, I figured it out.
Everything else aside, Rider and Cheryl are just oppressively good looking. It's insane! EXCEPT SHAWN HAS GOTTEN CHUBBY! MORE ON THIS LATER!
Maya's doubts are looking like the core of the episode, so let's chat some more. The standard strategy on a terrible show would be the kid like "But what if it sucks!" and there's an Emmy-baiting scene where the step-parent-to-be gives a heartfelt explanation of how it won't suck. This is different, since Maya had a scumbag, deadbeat father. ON THE OTHER HAND, hasn't this been her endgame since the day she met Shawn? Maya has been running the Parent Trap the whole time, why is she suddenly overcome with doubt? "Well you see Sean it's because now the whole thing is actually real to her it's perfectly natural for a girl her age MVP," and I could live with that explanation if the characters actually talk about it. But I'm betting they won't talk about it.
I don't know if you guys know this but Maya had a very sad childhood. Thank you Ben Savage (who directed this episode) for not telling Sabrina to cry here.
LIST OF TRUE FACTS:
1. The "snore, yip yip yip" gag has been done more times in Girl Meets World (twice) than Boy Meets World (once).
2. Some others.
End of list.
GMW has a habit of doing this. Making small throw-away never-been-an-important-part-of-Boy-Meets-World things bigger parts of GMW than they ever were of BMW.
3. Cory and Shawn only ever did their handshake, I think, twice on BMW.
4. Jennifer Basset wasn't important enough to bring back.
5. Harley wasn't important enough to be seen as often as we have. That we've seen him more than Alan and Amy makes me mad. And, Christ, speaking of the bullies, we haven't seen Frankie at all, and Frankie was actually Cory and Shawn's friend. I'm much more interested in what happened to Frankie.
6. Lauren's been talked about more in GMW than she ever was post-Starry Night on Boy Meets World. Plays with Squirrels came up in two episodes of GMW, just one of BMW
7. The "Feenay. Fee-hee-hee-heeenay" version of the Feeny call happened only once and yet it's the only one we hear anyone do. The normal Feeny call was generally just Eric screaming "Mr. Feeny?! MR. FEENY!!!!" at his back door.
8. "They want you to take the rolls" "Undapants!" Not big enough lines in their world to deserve callbacks in-universe 20 years later. Who was "They want you to take the rolls" for Cory? No one else remembers that. That was from a daydream in your head.
I don't know how Shawn could love Katy more than Cory. It was a stretch that Cory loved Topanga more than Shawn back in the day (I certainly believe it now, though). It's like when J.D. tells Elliot he loves her more than he loves Turk. No you fucking don't, J.D. Whatever. Otherwise I love this scene.
I'm not a fan of Scrubs.
Look, there's a lot of fun to be had with the "Cory loves Shawn more than he loves Topanga" business, but no, he doesn't. When he and Shawn would "break up", it would be either played for laughs or Cory would be pissed at him. When Cory and Topanga would "break up", be it in A Long Walk to Pittsburgh, the Lauren arc, or the parent divorce arc, it destroyed Cory. He seems to enjoy being with Shawn more, Shawn makes him happier, he's more fun with Shawn, but Topanga is certainly more important to him, and she has been since about Season 4.
I say that with all due respect to the Cory and Shawn bromance, which certainly means a lot more to me than the Cory and Topanga romance.
It's Shawn and Cory, Cory's pajamas are a map, it's fun. This is why I tuned in to that very first episode, to hear things like "So, Shawn, listen..."
This was an excellent scene. I believe it's my favorite Cory/Shawn scene in the show, although I also really liked them at the cabin. Season 3 has been good for Cory and Shawn. These are not the best Shawn episodes of GMW, but I think they're the best Cory/Shawn episodes. "Home for the Holidays" felt off and remains Shawn's worst episode. "Master Plan" was good, but not necessarily because of Cory and Shawn. "Pluto" is also really good and the only other contender. "Hurricane" wasn't very Cory-focused.
What's your favorite Cory/Shawn scene of GMW, Sean? Am I missing one? And also, what's the best Shawn episode of GMW? Probably this one. Let's wait til the end to answer that for sure.
Topanga gives like some speech about solid ground, I'm not listening, it's total GMW-speak, that pseudo-profound whateverness. Katy mentioned earlier that she was blessed to find Shawn, and she mentions God again here. She mentioned God once a while back when she talked about marriage, so it's a little piece of consistency that I appreciate. And it doesn't feel like a Kirk Cameron movie because no one else comments on it, it's just a little unique piece of character.
I'm not completely sold on Maya's crusade in this episode, but I love that she's completely independent about it. No puppet masters, no strings. No stupid Cory lessons, no egging on from Riley, her motivations have nothing to do with LUCAS, it's just Maya. That's cool.
Speaking of Lucas, not only did I enjoy him not being in this episode which was a big relief (No Farkle was nice too. I do not like those two. Which is a problem.) but the only mention of him was Maya's mocking impression of him. I like anything that mocks Lucas wanting to be a veterinarian.
But seriously. I think someone should make a list of episodes that don't include Lucas and Farkle. I bet the thing they have in common is that they're all good.
Someone will have to explain to me how seeing these preparations on the roof has convinced Maya Shawn really loves Katy. Was that ever even the question? That wasn't the problem. I don't get it, what did this resolve? Let's keep watching I guess.
OKAY, I DON'T CARE ABOUT MUCH. I MAY NOT CARE MOST OF THE TIME. THIS SHOW DOESN'T HOOK ME VERY OFTEN, I am unhooked 99% of the time. But this little dime Shawn just dropped, about "the guy who's marrying us," ohhhhhhhhhhh Shawnie Shawn, don't do that. Don't make me excited. God, who is it? Ohhhhh who is it! I'm actually excited, please don't let me down. I don't even care, there are like five good candidates and I'll be happy with any of them, pleaaaaaaaaase don't let me down.
Yeah Riley and Maya, BLAH BLAH, who the fuck is gonna do it! Who is it! Ahhhhhhhhh!
There ceremony's starting, WHO IS IT???? I'M SCARED TO WATCH, WHO'S IT GONNA BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
|Pictured: A very nervous Sean|
Okay it's Feeny, and now that he's actually here and talking I'm okay with it, but the fact that Turner and Alan don't even show up... I mean Turner actually lives here. Feeny came all the way from Philly and Turner couldn't make it? What a jerk. Somebody's a jerk, it might just be Shawn for not inviting him.
You're adorable. Yes, I was already spoiled, but I thought it was so obviously Feeny. That line could only have been Feeny - I don't think they would have treated Turner or Alan with that kind of reverence. Feeny's treated as an icon within this world, Turner, though respected, is just treated as a mere mortal. And Alan Fucking Matthews is barely remembered at all, which I hate.
Shut up Auggie, don't talk to him.
"He needs more time, Feeny." is another example of why this show deserves to exist. Thank you, everyone involved, for getting that on television.
"Well Mister Hunter, I always knew you had potential." Okay, look, I am only one man, with only one heart, and I would appreciate it if you didn't fill it quite so full, Mister Feeny. I don't completely agree with the delivery of that line, it was a little jokey when it could have been profound, but whatever. He said it.
Maya interrupts for pretty much no reason, and then they're married.
Let's not pretend that this episode was for the Girl Meets World fans. They made a half assed 5% attempt at including Maya in the story, but this was for us. This was to give us one more big event in the life of Shawn Hunter, which is something I spent many years thinking I wouldn't get to see, and in that way it certainly means a lot to me. This is simply, 100% a must-watch episode. Fans of Boy Meets World who do not care about this show have to see this one. It is astonishing, however, that neither Alan nor Turner were groomsman (or Jack), and there was no Ghost Chet! Ghost Chet can show up at the mall, at a clothes store in the mall, but not at Shawn's wedding? He didn't even need to say anything, just like, stand in the corner or something, I don't know. Come onnnnn, this is one of those times where it's totally okay to do a ghost. Blah.
They did a handwave toward the faces who weren't there by having Shawn do an impromptu wedding, so as to justify people like Jack, Alan, and Turner not being there. Even for people like Turner, who live in New York, you can really come up with any explanation you want for why he wasn't there. Maybe he was out of town that day. Maybe he and his wife had some really important obligation they couldn't get out of. When Shawn gives people only a couple hours notice for a wedding, it becomes acceptable that maybe the timing works out that some important people can't make it.
But, of course, the real reason is it's TV. And TV shows often do this. Have weddings or funerals that are only attended by the main cast members, and past characters who have left the show, or important family members of the critical people, don't come, because the actors weren't available to film that episode, or they didn't have the budget to bring back so many guest stars. While William Russ and Anthony Tyler Quinn (and Blake Clark) likely weren't too busy, this show likely doesn't have a huge budget. Maybe they could only afford one big guest star (since, mind you, Rider himself is already a big guest star) and they went with Feeny. If so, they made the right call. Of Feeny, Alan, and Turner, Feeny is the most important to Shawn, in my opinion. Turner would have been, but he wasn't the constant that Feeny and Alan are. And though Alan cared deeply for Shawn, but it wasn't quite the same. Nobody understood Shawn like Feeny did, not Turner and not Alan. (Plus if Alan comes, it'd be weird if Amy didn't come, and then maybe Josh comes, and it becomes a whole thing)
Matthew Lawrence, though, I dunno what to say. Jack shouldn't miss his brother's wedding. He at least deserved a mention. I can fanwank reasons Alan and Turner didn't make it. But you show up to your brother's wedding, I don't care what you're doing. But this show has completely erased the already tenuous Shawn/Jack connection. If you never watched BMW, you quite literally would have no reason to know Shawn and Jack are brothers. It's never been mentioned.
You're right, that's really funny. I doubt anyone fresh into the Meets World universe knows they're brothers. Or that the ghost Shawn saw in the mall was also Jack's dad.
I'm undecided on Chet. The only way I'd have liked it is Chet watching in the background like you said. There doesn't feel like room for a Shawn/Chet scene in this episodes, especially since Shawn never really felt like he was having any serious doubts, he was pretty steady in this one. He didn't need Chet's help. BUT, if they did that, then it's an instance of Chet being an actual ghost, like in Brave New World and Family Trees, which I hate. I much prefer him being in Shawn's head, like in Road Trip.
Ava doesn't deserve to be here. Neither did Lucas and Farkle, so I can't thank Mark Blutman enough for keeping them out of this episode.
Cool, Shawn got married. I mean fuck, that's pretty cool! I love Shawn, I'm glad he's happy. I'm glad Feeny got to be there. This is an essential episode for all my stupid biased reasons. I can't even begin to evaluate it objectively. I want to believe that the bit about Shawn's middle name was a throwback to City Slackers, where Feeny uses it as an example of something he knows about Shawn. I don't know, maybe.
I made this joke to you earlier, but I'll make it again here, while we're on the topic. They're obsessed with the fact that Shawn's middle name is Patrick in this one. They say it so many times. Feeny even says "Do you, Shawn Patrick, take Katy..." which I don't think I ever hear ministers do when performing marriage. I swear it's like Blutman looked Shawn up on Wikipedia or something, saw his middle name was Patrick, was like "Oh yeah...." and tried to work it into the episode as many times as possible.
Not sure I buy it as a City Slackers reference though. Mainly just because Shawn's middle name was actually one we heard numerous times - which is odd, since we never learned Cory's. He's Cory A. Matthews. Alan? Alexander? Andrew? Adam? Who knows? I hope it's not Alan. Alan doesn't seem like someone who'd name his son after himself, even in a middle name.
Fun fact, Cory and I have the same initials, CAM.
That's not a fun fact at all.
Christian has mostly only responded to my review here, and has his own full review left to write, which will come as soon as possible, so check back!
Hey guys, sorry for my usual delay. I'll keep this brief, because I still have "Real World" to watch, and because I've already said most of my stuff.
First off, yeah, Shawn got chubby! You can really see it in the wedding scenes (three-piece suits aren't particularly slimming for anybody) but it's all over - you can see it well in his blue shirt when talking to Maya about her concerns when she locks the door. Little roly-poly in the tum-tum. I'm not sure why it amuses me so, or why I feel so okay with bodyshaming in this instance, but I just find it hilarious that Shawn got so chubby. Once they all hit puberty, Rider was most certainly the scrawniest of the dudes on BMW. Funny to see him so chub-chub. At least it's not in his face - though who knows what that beard is hiding. Obviously, though, this is... comparatively. He's still a good looking guy, and probably falls on the slender side for approaching-middle-age-Americans. Still, it seems to be happening fast. I didn't notice this at all in "Upstate", I may have to rewatch.
I'm more or less okay with everything in this. I like Shawn and Katy. Yes, we didn't get to see them established enough but... it's a romance between two recurring guest stars, what can we really expect? As much as we love Shawn, and as much as I agree that this episode is largely for BMW fans, the Shawn/Katy relationship as a whole is more about Maya than Shawn himself, it has to be, Maya is our secondary protagonist, and Shawn's been in six episodes.
Everybody's good in this, although I admit I don't pay much attention to Rowan and Sabrina in this. Maya does sometimes become a little exhausting in this in making it all about her, but her concerns about protecting herself and her mom are understandable.
Riley's inability to wake up despite Maya trying to wake her up to talk about something emotional feels unlike her.
I wish they didn't need to beat us over the head over how alike Maya and Shawn are. But... that's always the complaint, isn't it?
The "You must be ready to marry Katy, because only someone who cares enough to ask if he's ready would be ready." thing reminds me of that fable of someone (maybe an animal or something?) asking some sage if he has a soul, and being told "Only those with souls are concerned with whether or not they have one." What's that story called again? Is that an Aesop fable? I guess "souls" doesn't really seem like an Ancient Greek concept. I can't seem to find what that story is through Google.
Shawn and Katy need more friends. I get why you can exclude people like Turner and Alan and Jack and Eric because of the distance and the short notice, but NOBODY else comes? No random friends? Shawn's one thing, but why doesn't Katy have friends? Why is Topanga her best friend? Why doesn't she have a family? Where's Granny Hart?
Wait, Katy Grace Clutterbucket? I thought Kermit was Clutterbucket. Now, I'm all confused! Anybody have more info on this?
I didn't mind Auggie and Ava here. I mean, why wouldn't Auggie come first of all, and Ava does live in the building. Also, I liked the "We've lived our lives." joke. Auggie and Ava are fine as long as they have no storylines for me.
Danielle's delivery of "Great." was funny when Ava caught the bouquet.
Episode Rating: A-
Episode MVP: This is toooooough. I'm giving it to Ben Savage though. I just enjoyed him most. Rider gets the silver, Cheryl gets the bronze.